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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Back to Suspension.
I think that I am not going to put springs on my WRX 2010 right away. Instead I think I am going to put strut bars in the vehicle instead to improve the handling. I also think I am going to put sway bars on the vehicle to reduce body roll. Strut bars by my understand improve the handling by forcing the suspension to do more of the work. The sway bars reduce body roll. So I think installing those before coilovers would be more advantageous. I think after that I am going to put cusco zero 2E coilover after that to complete the package. Let me know what the deal with is you guys. Also send me some pictures of you're cars so I can see what y'all are doing. 
_________________ PATRICK
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| Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:32 pm |
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Dazed_Driver
Trust Me, I'm A Professional!
Joined: January 2010 Posts: 708 Location: Woodinville, WA
Year: 1985
Make: Toyota
Model: Testarolla
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
I like everything you said but the 3rd to last sentence.
_________________ power is how fast you hit the wall torque is how far you take the wall with you
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| Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:57 pm |
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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
What didn't you like about it?
_________________ PATRICK
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| Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:37 pm |
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TORQD
BOV & CAI, Sweet!
Joined: April 2010 Posts: 139
Year: 2007
Make: 20G STI
Model: 375hp/tq =)
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Based only on personal experience -- not speaking as a performance expert -- but just as a guy who's modified a couple of Subies for tracking ... Springs and Swaybars are a combination done to improve handling, increase control, and reduce body roll. They are, dollar-for-dollar, a very good investment. Coilovers are a whole different experience that may or may not be improved by Swaybars. Pricey, but worth it if you're committed to throwing your ride around Pacific Raceways for $280/day. My advice would be (annoyingly enough) a few questions: What do you want your end-state to be? Are you going to track your car? What are you willing/able to spend? What are you willing/able to sacrifice? KW (or even Tein) coilovers would be best for controlling body roll, but would still benefit from good swaybars. A relative GOB of muhneez, tho'. And if you're willing to go that far, then you need to also factor in the cost of Whiteline PSRS and Roll-Center kits (about $1000 right there w/o install costs) just to offset the bumpsteer induced by the lowered ride height. But if you're willing to toss your back seats and install a rollbar, then heck, what's the price delta? Springs and Swaybars are a cheaper combo, and most excellent for occasionally spirited driving. Frankly, unless you're tracking your car, I would strongly encourage you to "just" go the Springs-and-Swaybars route. Ride height reference pic (as posted elsewhere) for an 07 STi rolling Coilovers and Swaybars, with Whiteline PSRS and Roll-Center kits:  As opposed to my 08 WRX using just Cobb Sport Springs and Cobb Swaybars:  EDIT: Both rides mine and both shots taken at PR ... point is that ride height isn't all that different, so if looks are a criteria then they shouldn't be. Hope that helps 
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| Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:50 pm |
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Dazed_Driver
Trust Me, I'm A Professional!
Joined: January 2010 Posts: 708 Location: Woodinville, WA
Year: 1985
Make: Toyota
Model: Testarolla
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Go see the coil over thread for more information.
_________________ power is how fast you hit the wall torque is how far you take the wall with you
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timmvonderau See the PM button? That's the complaint department.
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| Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:42 pm |
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StayShift
Mannish Boy
Joined: March 2010 Posts: 1250 Location: Auto Produce Aisle
Year: 2008
Make: Subaru
Model: RAD Stealth Hatch
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Let's not open this can of worms up again. I think our egos have been petted more times than Miss November's centerfold in regards to this issue.
In short: Timm's take: Coilovers = NO! Unless racing.
But then again no cares what Timm says...LOL!
_________________ Strengths: Crispy combos, roughin' it on mashed pokemons, mindfucking, being white Weaknesses: Pringled, Not enough turtling, no scooping, being white
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| Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:46 pm |
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Dazed_Driver
Trust Me, I'm A Professional!
Joined: January 2010 Posts: 708 Location: Woodinville, WA
Year: 1985
Make: Toyota
Model: Testarolla
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Basically. But the whole story is in the coil overs thread.
_________________ power is how fast you hit the wall torque is how far you take the wall with you
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timmvonderau See the PM button? That's the complaint department.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:07 am |
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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
This car is my daily driver. I do not really know if I am going to take it to the track. I want to take it there at least one to see how it is going to perform. I love pushing my sooby and seeing what she can do!!! I think springs may be the way to go. because I want these mods like yesterday, and springs are much cheaper.
_________________ PATRICK
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:43 am |
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Sofa King
Subie Newbie
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 19 Location: The Sofa
Year: 2009
Make: Subaru
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Epic Springs are the way to go for a DD. that and a bigger rear sway. that is what i have done and it really works great. just my $.02.
_________________ When life gives you lemons.... just add Vodka!!
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:16 am |
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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Excellent. Thank you for correcting my noobness. HA! I was just about to ask about what springs could be recommended. When is the next Meet? I would like to attend. I am going to be getting a sound system installed this upcoming weekend on the westside if anyone wants to get together. NOt this weekend nexr weekend just to clarify.
_________________ PATRICK
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:19 pm |
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StayShift
Mannish Boy
Joined: March 2010 Posts: 1250 Location: Auto Produce Aisle
Year: 2008
Make: Subaru
Model: RAD Stealth Hatch
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Pat...text me when you are in town and we'll see if we can get something going. The crew is pretty good about last minute shindigs.
_________________ Strengths: Crispy combos, roughin' it on mashed pokemons, mindfucking, being white Weaknesses: Pringled, Not enough turtling, no scooping, being white
Don't ever think you are great at what you do cuz the hunger to get better would forever be disappear.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:04 pm |
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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
Bad ass!!! I am getting my stuff installed at VRT in Everett. I will let you know.
_________________ PATRICK
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:07 pm |
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StayShift
Mannish Boy
Joined: March 2010 Posts: 1250 Location: Auto Produce Aisle
Year: 2008
Make: Subaru
Model: RAD Stealth Hatch
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
^OH NO SHIT! Nice! Let me know when you are going to be there. I live 20 minutes away and work less than 10.
And you mean VTR. LOL! I got mine done there a few days ago and then got it tuned at Resolution. I'll have you take a listen when I see you.
_________________ Strengths: Crispy combos, roughin' it on mashed pokemons, mindfucking, being white Weaknesses: Pringled, Not enough turtling, no scooping, being white
Don't ever think you are great at what you do cuz the hunger to get better would forever be disappear.
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:08 pm |
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PMHAYS
Subie Newbie
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 44
Year: 2010
Make: SUBARU
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
I knew I was going to mess that up! hahaha!!!! I will def give you a call. I might buy a cold air intake while I get my system done.
_________________ PATRICK
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:38 pm |
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UVERjump
BOV & CAI, Sweet!
Joined: June 2010 Posts: 144 Location: Mill Creek
Year: 2006
Make: Subaru
Model: WRX
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 Re: Back to Suspension.
I would love to see you out at some of the meets, man! You should definitely come out!
_________________ - Brian
With the "Pink-Nosed Stallion."  -Michael
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| Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:51 pm |
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